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What Animal Skin Is Used For Drums

  1. Well.....anyone play any manus drums? i just realized how many animals die for u.s.a. to play drums with animal skin heads......Any alternatives? around this other than the obvious remo diverseness? i know theres some creative people out at that place...
  2. ask drumminmama, she'd know. :) I actually have no idea. What well-nigh if they developed some sort of thick latex for it? (I don't even know what they employ now in identify of skin, some sort of plasticy looking thing)
  3. MikeE

    MikeE Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    There are non-animal substitutes (if petroleum doesn't count as "animal"). The trouble is the sound.
    Does it help that cows are not killed for their skins? Meat slaughter produces more skins than are needed. But many drum heads come from other animals.
  4. Everytime the pulsate circle locks into perfect rhythm and the energy piques, I thank the goat that gave his life for my drumhead. What improve mode to honor it's spirit?
  5. Or, yous could award its life, and not support taking its life in the first place ...

    It'southward rather selfish to kill and requite thanks, than to actually respect life in the offset identify. That kind of logic is why our world is polluted and our politicians are corrupt and why war however exists today.

  6. I just find it funny how many vegetarians actually play creature peel drum heads, are into animal rights thats all
  7. Hikaru Null-
    I couldn't agree with you more.

    And likewise buying "byproducts" still contributes to the industry. Veal can technically be considered a byproduct of the dairy industry. The "by-" part seems to trivialize the importance of the purchase of the product but I do not information technology should be trivialized.

  8. Jeez, don't become your panties in a wad or anything. We but believe different things.

    I believe in the natural lodge of things. We humans are the top of the nutrient chain. All the animals and plants here are for us to apply as we see fit. Don't condemn me for my behavior and I volition respect yours also.

  9. drumminmama

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    I see I was summomned.
    Hippie Hillbilly had a vegan drum thread not and then long agone.

    We have several (lots) drums. Some are synth headed and some have animal pare heads.
    My personal (non-loaned to anyone) djembe is goatskin headed. Here's why:
    I resisted this pulsate for weeks. I'd cease in the store, play on several simply this one had THE Voice. No remo did what information technology did, no synthetic headed doumbek.
    I researched the area where the drum was built, contacted a few folks at that place and constitute out that the goatskin was from their food animals, but also that it was one of two means of support for the village.
    I constitute out how much the makers actually got, and decided the mark up was reasonable.
    My drum has incidental material for the caput. It was not raised in a manufacturing plant feedlot state of affairs. looking at some of the mars on the peel, the beast was not well, either (noticed later)
    It as well took the life of function of a tree.
    I took the plunge.
    None of my other pecusion toys has animal parts: no caprine animal toenail rattles, no other peel drums (mine, the omnis accept them). I would NEVER purchase a skin-headed drum made in the U.s.a.. Not even the lovely frame drums from Taos.

    What happens when this head is worn, I don't know. I'thousand chatting with some drum builders about options.

    Aside from a gift, this is the ONLY creature I take.
    I'thou not full-bore AR, but I question how we treat other species.
    Every drummer has to make their own choice.

  10. Employ as we meet fit? Like their lives are just here for your pleasure? Animals exist for their own reasons, not the reasons humans assign them. You lot can believe what yous desire but the only one who tin can "apply equally they see fit" would be a creator of such things. I can't meet how y'all can get defensive when someone is siding with non killing.
    To each their ain. That includes the animals though.
  11. Help me to empathise you. The cockroach that you see crawling beyond your kitchen counter non but shouldn't be squished..(animal's right to life) simply should also be immune to remain in your business firm because subsequently all, if you put information technology outside... well... it may not like it?
  12. Many of the goat skins for pulsate heads come from Islamic republic of pakistan and Africa. The people their use the goats for their main source for food, as meat and milk. Their goats are valuable assets for a family and are unremarkably freely grazed. They are their livelyhood. The goats are neither kept confined, made to suffer, or disrespected. They are valuable parts of an agrarian civilization. When they do impale them for meat, they then use every function of the animal. The goats were non killed to make drum heads, this is purely a secondary market place for their skins.
  13. woodsgod-
    I really exercise not see how y'all tin logically make that comparison when all I was doing was basically proverb that it is pretty egotistical so say animals are here to do what we want with them. Only a creator of such animals should take the gall to say that- we aren't god, we can't dictate WHY a creature is here. We don't even know certainly why WE are here. Your comparison also did not logically follow my comment. I didn't mention anything about animals non "liking" something.
    Regarding your question- there is such a thing as self-preservation. I would not allow bugs crawl all over our counters and food because I experience that is unsanitary. And personally roaches scare me (I know they can't do much). And so I put the roach outside. I exercise non let fleas crawl all over my dog considering it would cause him pain. I wouldn't allow my dog live with intestinal parasites. Yep those animals are alive, likewise, but information technology is self preservation. I was talking near how it seems arrogant (in my opinion) to say that animals are hither for us, and nothing more. I feel you are reading into it trying to take hold of some sort of loophole. Maybe you didn't mean it in an combative way.
  14. While we're on this inane "food chain" argument, how many other animals high on the food chain simply "do what they wish" with the animals they eat? None. Most of them impale only to survive. We kill for recreation and luxury objects. That is an insult to the nutrient chain, not proof of it.
  15. MikeE

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    Part of our relationship with animals is due to our human relationship with things.
    We are tool makers and users. To cave folks, the animate being's pare was not just an impediment to the meat, but as well warmth and shelter. The animal is not only dinner, but too a raw textile for tools. Leather, sinew, .... there is all kinds of useful stuff inside an animal.
    Seeing the animal equally both nutrient and tool source helped u.s.a. see ourselves every bit seperate from animals.
  16. But the actions of people then using animals out of absolute necessity do not justify our absolutely unnecessary actions and use of animals now. Nosotros have evolved.
  17. MikeE

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    True. Only the by shapes past attitudes and helps reply "how can anyone.....".
  18. drumminmama

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    ahem...back to drum heads??
  19. MikeE

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    What non-creature heads sound the best? I accept an sometime (15 yr.) Mid-East Mfg. dumbek that has a plastic/paper(?) combo for the head. Not as good as goat pare, but ameliorate than the other vegan heads avaliable at the time.
  20. For those of you that want a more than ethical, non-animal skinnned drum, the Remo line on hand drums, such as their Djembe's are fabricated of recycled woods and constructed skin head. No animals parts were used in its making. That's what I mostly play.

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